I live in a gated community, it’s common knowledge that we’re one of those “full size bars” neighborhoods. Halloween is the only night that the gates are kept open. The chief of police lives here so it helps keep things respectful. Glad for that, so many pretentious people out there, just give back man.
A couple years ago we started handing out 3d printed Halloween trinkets with the candy. I go a little overboard and do multicolored. My neighbor and I were stoked last year to see cars drive and park. Like, we’re bringing people to our neighborhood!!!!! Nothing beats a persons face light up!!!
Its a bit of a racket now. My neighborhood used to be full of kids walking around trick-or-treating. Now there are tons of cars following their kids from door to door. A constant stream of cars and hordes of kids walking around typically aren’t a good mix.
I think a fair compromise would be to make people park at the entrance to the neighborhood and let them walk in to trick-or-treat. Then everyone can have fun, no one gets run over, and the people trying to speedrun can go somewhere else.
Only slightly connected to this but I have always wondered about gated communities.
Do you have a wall round the whole estate?
Bit like a medieval village? To keep the savages and actors out?
For years, I lived in a neighborhood in Washington, DC that was near a lot of not-so-great areas. A lot of people would come from those not-so-great areas to my neighborhood to trick or treat. I loved it! Halloween in my neighborhood was amazing. Everyone would sit outside in their front yard with a big bowl of candy and a small bowl of dog treats. They’d pass out candy and treats, have a few beers and chat with neighbors (these were rowhouses, so very tiny front yards). Everyone (even adults) would dress up. Even the mailman would park his delivery vehicle on one corner and pass out candy. It was so much fun.
Yea I live in one of the nicer neighborhoods in my little town and we get an INSANE amount of traffic through the neighborhood to the point where cops get called every year to manage it. Cars will haul ass down the kid filled streets to either find a place to park or to follow their trick or treating kids. I absolutely love how many kids come into the neighborhood for Halloween but it gets a little ridiculous. Most of the residents will actually leave to go to other neighborhoods to avoid the madness, which I’m sure creates the same problem in other nice neighborhoods. So I get what your HOA is trying to do, but damn, it sucks they have to do it.
This seems like such a Karen move but I used to live in a neighborhood where nearby folks would travel too.
It was madness. Streets were clogged up and we always ran out of candy because 95% of kids were from next town so kids who lived in the neighborhood wouldn’t get any left. Also parents from next city would dump all their kids and leave so you’ve got 1000 unsupervised kids.
11pm would roll around and you got hundreds of kids going around ding dong ditching and doing all kinds stupid shit. Candy was ALWAYS stolen by delinquents when parents were nowhere to be found.
On its face, who cares- it’s kids. Let them enjoy themselves. But problem is when parents are dump shitty kids on your street it ultimately becomes your problem. I came to hate Halloween living there lol
It’s so weird cuz when I was a kid this wasn’t a problem. Kids would go to nearby cities but it wasn’t bad. Bad parents raise bad kids, unfortunately.
So… I live on a cool Halloween street. I don’t mind the kids that come in cars and do the tour, but I really hate the shit with the parents with 2 or 3 bags collecting for “sick kids.” Go home and take care of your kids – OR – quit lying to me for free candy, it’s pathetic. Go back to your own neighborhood and make it something, just like we did…
Also, I control what goes in each bag. Neighbors get the most, car riders get a mini, people with bags andno kids might get a starburst. Any kid (local or not) that either goes out of their way with an awesome costume or knows the names of my dogs gets a full size bar. My kids friends have learned this trick and it’s started to cost me.
My wife usually buys the candy, but I get all butterfingers from any mixed bags, they are never given away. Ever. I will steal them from my children with no apology or regret.
tbh, this happens near me and unfortunately the results are what the letter says. I know of groups that drive 5-10 miles away from their own area to trick or treat. The candy is gone in minutes. That’s not how it was when we were kids… you would just walk around your block or whatever and everyone knew you. it’s weird having large groups of strangers at your front door. But I am referring mostly to older teens. If it’s little kids, that’s less concerning i guess. idk… when we went the parents would make a game of trying to see if they could guess who was under the mask.
I almost wish something like that could be done in my neighborhood. I don’t want that because I think the real solution is for the surrounding neighborhoods to step up their game, but we just get way more kids than we can handle every year.
I buy nearly $200 worth a candy and I run out within a couple hours. Cars just keep showing up throughout the night and most kids aren’t even walking to our door, just being driven around the neighborhood. I feel bad for the kids who have parents that work late and can’t take them out until later, we usually don’t have anything left for them.
I live in a community that’s known for Halloween generosity. We give out the “big” candy. Last year, I spent $100 on candy and was out of stuff at 7:00. I completely understand the issue. I had people pissed off, even though I turned off the porch light, they were still banging on my door. I started answering and saying sorry we are out of candy and got a bunch of fuck yous. We’ve probably got 50 trick or treat age kids at most in the neighborhood based on the kids I see in the park. Sorry, but I’m not buying $300 worth of candy. I’ll give it to a food bank. This year I’m standing out front in the driveway with no lights on. When the candy is done, I’m done.
It’s not a wealthy or gated community, we’re just people who like to have fun. But the streets were almost unsafe because so many people were driving, while kids were scampering around. So I didn’t really want to go out and drive around buying more candy. I just want a normal Halloween where we can make nice comments on the costumes and hand out candy.
So to everyone who says people suck for not letting everyone in, I also say, trick or treat in your own neighborhood. I want to take care of the kids who play football across the street. Go to a trunk or treat if your neighborhood isn’t safe.
It just sucks on a lot of levels. Sorry to be a sourpuss about it. Halloween should never have been taken over by adults. That’s the kind of attitude that leads to driving to “good candy” neighborhoods. I grew up in a garbage neighborhood and was fine with the sweet tarts and penny candy. Christ.
Ngl, this one i kind of get.
Not because “Grrr keep poor people out”
But because no neighborhood isn’t stocking up on 30 tonnes of candy per house and is able to supply 4 neighborhoods worth of kids, at least where I’m from they ain’t.
Cause when I was younger, there were a couple of streets in our town which had “Golden Houses” which gave out like PROPER good candy, Name-Brand full size Chocolate and candy bars, whole packages of gum, that sort of thing.
They obviously gathered attention and people often went there first, to try and still get some good things, but once word got out that these people were giving out the good stuff it wasn’t just our small-town who went there but people from BOTH of our neighboring towns dropped their kids off here.
This obviously lead to those houses not NEARLY having enough candy, and you either had to go there by 5PM to try and score any candy, or you were getting nothing.
AFAIK they stopped giving out candy a year or so after i stopped going trick or treating because a group of kids from our town got there before a group of kids from one of the other towns and scored the last candy, and when they didn’t want to share it a fight broke out.
No big fight obviously, but enough for many of those houses to either stop giving completely or only start giving “Bad” candy and fruits and shit
Sad to say I can *kind of* get where this board is coming from. I grew up in an HOA, not gated, and we went from having pretty much the whole neighborhood decorating and handing out candy, to being lucky if *one* street was fully lit up. All because, every year, more people came in from other neighborhoods, even completely different parts of town, and residents just got tired of having to buy so much extra candy. Granted, no one ever tried pulling something like this in response, but it was still a bummer to watch Halloween night slowly go dark as a kid.
I don’t have a problem with this. I’ve seen neighborhoods totally vandalized and destroyed and kids who lived there pushed aside because others are dropped off and start raising hell.
Ok hear me out- i live in a nice gated community with HOA- while we hate most of HOA things, in this particular situation, its true that outsiders / non residents coming in “packs” doing things like property damage and theft . Its been 6 years straight where gates are opened to everyone during halloween , there are numerous thefts and damages to our neighborhood- though perps are mostly big kids and adults (not those cute little toddlers and pre teen kids) are doing these stuff, this year HOA decided to closed the gates . And i think its a good thing
We used to do a big thing for Halloween for the kids in our village, the houses would go all out and it was great for a number of years, we all live close together so we would park our cars on the field so that the kids could be safe walking around the street. It was nice because it was about 300 kids and you’d know them and their families, so you’d catch up at the door, but now it’s the towns over coming and it’s just heaving with kids and cars. Last year was the worst, so many people that they trampled over the grass, broke decorations and egged houses that ran out of candy. Just not worth it anymore, so we decided to stop.
I can see from the comments that this will be unpopular, but I agree with this letter.
Here’s what I’m actually reading: In past years, people have come to our neighborhood because we hand out better candy. They proceed to take more than their fair share, including dumping a bowl left out into their bag so no one else could have candy. These people have even decided that, since it’s not their neighborhood, they can deface decorations and other property before leaving. To avoid this, we have taken the unfortunate route of denying people coming from other neighborhoods from participating.
What I do think is hilarious is all the people whining about how this targets the poor. The reason is because you read about unruly behavior and the changes made to combat them and immediately think poor people are doing these things. At no point is any group singled out, but you immediately jump to that. And why? Because many of them do act like this. You don’t want to say it but your thinking is on display. How interesting…
While I do think this could have been handled better, I dont think the majority of this thread understands how bad of a problem this can become.
I do full size candy bars and i have for the last couple years. My neighborhood has been known as taking halloween very serious as well. Over the years the crowds have grown but last year was INSANE.
Last year I ran out of 400 dollars of full size candy bars in less than 30min. THOUSANDS of kids showed up. 95% of the kids didn’t even live in the neighborhood. The next day our streets were TRASHED. People’s decorations were stolen (someone stole my fog machine), trash filled the streets, houses were egged, cars were TPd. Half of my neighbors dont want to celebrate this year after what happened.
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>Residents expecting guests from outside the neighborhood are encouraged to make alternate plans.
Oh, hell no. The HOA has no business telling anyone that they are not allowed to have guests at their own home.
Going to be fun being one of those entrance volunteers arguing with a stream of cars full of kids all night.
Easiest way to deal with them is to hand out candy to them.
I live in a gated community, it’s common knowledge that we’re one of those “full size bars” neighborhoods. Halloween is the only night that the gates are kept open. The chief of police lives here so it helps keep things respectful. Glad for that, so many pretentious people out there, just give back man.
“Happy Halloween! Cute costume, kiddo! Now I’m gonna need to see some ID, proof of address, and at least one utility bill, if you want this candy”
A couple years ago we started handing out 3d printed Halloween trinkets with the candy. I go a little overboard and do multicolored. My neighbor and I were stoked last year to see cars drive and park. Like, we’re bringing people to our neighborhood!!!!! Nothing beats a persons face light up!!!
Its a bit of a racket now. My neighborhood used to be full of kids walking around trick-or-treating. Now there are tons of cars following their kids from door to door. A constant stream of cars and hordes of kids walking around typically aren’t a good mix.
I think a fair compromise would be to make people park at the entrance to the neighborhood and let them walk in to trick-or-treat. Then everyone can have fun, no one gets run over, and the people trying to speedrun can go somewhere else.
expecting your grandkids to visit you on halloween? think again! we must keep those POORS out of our neighborhood and that includes your family!
good god i find that ridiculous. HOA hate fun, whimsy, family, and of course the POORS
Only slightly connected to this but I have always wondered about gated communities.
Do you have a wall round the whole estate?
Bit like a medieval village? To keep the savages and actors out?
For years, I lived in a neighborhood in Washington, DC that was near a lot of not-so-great areas. A lot of people would come from those not-so-great areas to my neighborhood to trick or treat. I loved it! Halloween in my neighborhood was amazing. Everyone would sit outside in their front yard with a big bowl of candy and a small bowl of dog treats. They’d pass out candy and treats, have a few beers and chat with neighbors (these were rowhouses, so very tiny front yards). Everyone (even adults) would dress up. Even the mailman would park his delivery vehicle on one corner and pass out candy. It was so much fun.
Yea I live in one of the nicer neighborhoods in my little town and we get an INSANE amount of traffic through the neighborhood to the point where cops get called every year to manage it. Cars will haul ass down the kid filled streets to either find a place to park or to follow their trick or treating kids. I absolutely love how many kids come into the neighborhood for Halloween but it gets a little ridiculous. Most of the residents will actually leave to go to other neighborhoods to avoid the madness, which I’m sure creates the same problem in other nice neighborhoods. So I get what your HOA is trying to do, but damn, it sucks they have to do it.
If I lived there I would volunteer to be gate security and just let everyone in.
This seems like such a Karen move but I used to live in a neighborhood where nearby folks would travel too.
It was madness. Streets were clogged up and we always ran out of candy because 95% of kids were from next town so kids who lived in the neighborhood wouldn’t get any left. Also parents from next city would dump all their kids and leave so you’ve got 1000 unsupervised kids.
11pm would roll around and you got hundreds of kids going around ding dong ditching and doing all kinds stupid shit. Candy was ALWAYS stolen by delinquents when parents were nowhere to be found.
On its face, who cares- it’s kids. Let them enjoy themselves. But problem is when parents are dump shitty kids on your street it ultimately becomes your problem. I came to hate Halloween living there lol
It’s so weird cuz when I was a kid this wasn’t a problem. Kids would go to nearby cities but it wasn’t bad. Bad parents raise bad kids, unfortunately.
So… I live on a cool Halloween street. I don’t mind the kids that come in cars and do the tour, but I really hate the shit with the parents with 2 or 3 bags collecting for “sick kids.” Go home and take care of your kids – OR – quit lying to me for free candy, it’s pathetic. Go back to your own neighborhood and make it something, just like we did…
Also, I control what goes in each bag. Neighbors get the most, car riders get a mini, people with bags andno kids might get a starburst. Any kid (local or not) that either goes out of their way with an awesome costume or knows the names of my dogs gets a full size bar. My kids friends have learned this trick and it’s started to cost me.
My wife usually buys the candy, but I get all butterfingers from any mixed bags, they are never given away. Ever. I will steal them from my children with no apology or regret.
tbh, this happens near me and unfortunately the results are what the letter says. I know of groups that drive 5-10 miles away from their own area to trick or treat. The candy is gone in minutes. That’s not how it was when we were kids… you would just walk around your block or whatever and everyone knew you. it’s weird having large groups of strangers at your front door. But I am referring mostly to older teens. If it’s little kids, that’s less concerning i guess. idk… when we went the parents would make a game of trying to see if they could guess who was under the mask.
I almost wish something like that could be done in my neighborhood. I don’t want that because I think the real solution is for the surrounding neighborhoods to step up their game, but we just get way more kids than we can handle every year.
I buy nearly $200 worth a candy and I run out within a couple hours. Cars just keep showing up throughout the night and most kids aren’t even walking to our door, just being driven around the neighborhood. I feel bad for the kids who have parents that work late and can’t take them out until later, we usually don’t have anything left for them.
I live in a community that’s known for Halloween generosity. We give out the “big” candy. Last year, I spent $100 on candy and was out of stuff at 7:00. I completely understand the issue. I had people pissed off, even though I turned off the porch light, they were still banging on my door. I started answering and saying sorry we are out of candy and got a bunch of fuck yous. We’ve probably got 50 trick or treat age kids at most in the neighborhood based on the kids I see in the park. Sorry, but I’m not buying $300 worth of candy. I’ll give it to a food bank. This year I’m standing out front in the driveway with no lights on. When the candy is done, I’m done.
It’s not a wealthy or gated community, we’re just people who like to have fun. But the streets were almost unsafe because so many people were driving, while kids were scampering around. So I didn’t really want to go out and drive around buying more candy. I just want a normal Halloween where we can make nice comments on the costumes and hand out candy.
So to everyone who says people suck for not letting everyone in, I also say, trick or treat in your own neighborhood. I want to take care of the kids who play football across the street. Go to a trunk or treat if your neighborhood isn’t safe.
It just sucks on a lot of levels. Sorry to be a sourpuss about it. Halloween should never have been taken over by adults. That’s the kind of attitude that leads to driving to “good candy” neighborhoods. I grew up in a garbage neighborhood and was fine with the sweet tarts and penny candy. Christ.
Ngl, this one i kind of get.
Not because “Grrr keep poor people out”
But because no neighborhood isn’t stocking up on 30 tonnes of candy per house and is able to supply 4 neighborhoods worth of kids, at least where I’m from they ain’t.
Cause when I was younger, there were a couple of streets in our town which had “Golden Houses” which gave out like PROPER good candy, Name-Brand full size Chocolate and candy bars, whole packages of gum, that sort of thing.
They obviously gathered attention and people often went there first, to try and still get some good things, but once word got out that these people were giving out the good stuff it wasn’t just our small-town who went there but people from BOTH of our neighboring towns dropped their kids off here.
This obviously lead to those houses not NEARLY having enough candy, and you either had to go there by 5PM to try and score any candy, or you were getting nothing.
AFAIK they stopped giving out candy a year or so after i stopped going trick or treating because a group of kids from our town got there before a group of kids from one of the other towns and scored the last candy, and when they didn’t want to share it a fight broke out.
No big fight obviously, but enough for many of those houses to either stop giving completely or only start giving “Bad” candy and fruits and shit
I understand their concern, but this really looks like it was written by a pretentious snot rag.
Sad to say I can *kind of* get where this board is coming from. I grew up in an HOA, not gated, and we went from having pretty much the whole neighborhood decorating and handing out candy, to being lucky if *one* street was fully lit up. All because, every year, more people came in from other neighborhoods, even completely different parts of town, and residents just got tired of having to buy so much extra candy. Granted, no one ever tried pulling something like this in response, but it was still a bummer to watch Halloween night slowly go dark as a kid.
I don’t have a problem with this. I’ve seen neighborhoods totally vandalized and destroyed and kids who lived there pushed aside because others are dropped off and start raising hell.
Ok hear me out- i live in a nice gated community with HOA- while we hate most of HOA things, in this particular situation, its true that outsiders / non residents coming in “packs” doing things like property damage and theft . Its been 6 years straight where gates are opened to everyone during halloween , there are numerous thefts and damages to our neighborhood- though perps are mostly big kids and adults (not those cute little toddlers and pre teen kids) are doing these stuff, this year HOA decided to closed the gates . And i think its a good thing
We used to do a big thing for Halloween for the kids in our village, the houses would go all out and it was great for a number of years, we all live close together so we would park our cars on the field so that the kids could be safe walking around the street. It was nice because it was about 300 kids and you’d know them and their families, so you’d catch up at the door, but now it’s the towns over coming and it’s just heaving with kids and cars. Last year was the worst, so many people that they trampled over the grass, broke decorations and egged houses that ran out of candy. Just not worth it anymore, so we decided to stop.
I see nothing wrong with this. They allowed outsiders and had property damage. They changed the rules.
I can see from the comments that this will be unpopular, but I agree with this letter.
Here’s what I’m actually reading: In past years, people have come to our neighborhood because we hand out better candy. They proceed to take more than their fair share, including dumping a bowl left out into their bag so no one else could have candy. These people have even decided that, since it’s not their neighborhood, they can deface decorations and other property before leaving. To avoid this, we have taken the unfortunate route of denying people coming from other neighborhoods from participating.
What I do think is hilarious is all the people whining about how this targets the poor. The reason is because you read about unruly behavior and the changes made to combat them and immediately think poor people are doing these things. At no point is any group singled out, but you immediately jump to that. And why? Because many of them do act like this. You don’t want to say it but your thinking is on display. How interesting…
While I do think this could have been handled better, I dont think the majority of this thread understands how bad of a problem this can become.
I do full size candy bars and i have for the last couple years. My neighborhood has been known as taking halloween very serious as well. Over the years the crowds have grown but last year was INSANE.
Last year I ran out of 400 dollars of full size candy bars in less than 30min. THOUSANDS of kids showed up. 95% of the kids didn’t even live in the neighborhood. The next day our streets were TRASHED. People’s decorations were stolen (someone stole my fog machine), trash filled the streets, houses were egged, cars were TPd. Half of my neighbors dont want to celebrate this year after what happened.