映画「ヒート」（1995年）の銃撃戦シーンで、ヴァル・キルマーが見せたライフル装填の動きがあまりにもリアルだったため、その映像がアメリカ軍の訓練教材として実際に使用されている。
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I always respect when actors develop the actual skill their character is playing. See also Tom Cruise in collateral and of course Keanu in John Wick.
Michael Mann’s other movie *Collateral* has Cruise doing the Mozambique technique so good it’s used in police training
[The clip.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VNBs_xq0QC8) Excellent movie by the way. I’m not an action-movie-for-the-sake-of-action kind of person, and this action movie really delivers on providing more than just endless shootouts. Very fun cinematography that creates a constant sense of danger, the volatility of the protagonists is scarier than the gunfire, and you don’t know what’s going to happen next but it makes sense when it does happen.
One of the best and most realistic sounding scenes in movie history, I use it to test sound systems (+ some scenes from Gladiator and Master&Commander).
Maybe pedantic but: Val Kilmer said that a guy told him that the clip was used is U.S military training. As far as I know there’s no evidence the clip has ever actually been used this way apart from Kilmer’s story.
I’m going to have this constanly-reposted Reddit trivia piece on my gravestone.
If you can’t change a magazine as fast as this actor, maybe the army isn’t for you.
I love the moment when Shiherlis goes from smiling after a successful heist to immediately opening fire the second he spots Hannah and his crew.
I share the skepticism that it was used in actual training, but the fact that “Andy McNab” (SAS, Bravo Two Zero) was a technical advisor might explain the realism.
Not to undermine the quality of the movie, but that’s actually a very low bar.
There isn’t some kind of official certification process for what clips or pictures are used in trainings. It’s literally just up to whoever is giving it or creating the slides to throw in something if they feel like it.
I watched the phone call scene from Taken as part of a training on human trafficking awareness.
He was the saint
Doubt.
Val Kilmer himself is supposedly the source for this and the quote is
>Val Kilmer says he had heard that when the moment his character reloads, Marine trainers tell recruits, “*If you can’t change a clip as fast as this actor, get out of my army!*”
A Marine would never refer to the Marine Corps as an army in any way. I don’t think they would call a magazine a clip either, especially in the context of a Drill Instructor teaching recruits.
I was in the Army for 20 years and went through basic training 5 years after the movie came out. I never heard it referenced during training. The only TV we even saw during basic was one in the chow hall and all it ever had on was CNN. We didn’t have time to watch it anyway.
Calls it a ‘clip’
Shoots chicken wing
Doubt
That seems like an odd thing for the U.S. Military to do. I think this might just be less true than it should be.
> Marine trainers tell recruits, “If you can’t change a clip as fast as this actor, get out of my army!”
I hate Hollywood so much when it comes to anything even loosely military related.
I can’t imagine a DI saying “my army.”
Ah good ol TIL#457
I mean, not exactly rocket science though? Not like he took it apart, cleaned it and put it together without any extra bits left over
I’m not a gun guy…. what makes it so impressive? ‘,:/ is it just fast? Clean? What the average for comparison?
Source: trust me bro
Is everyone’s god awful aim accurate too? In the middle of the street
You have been on Reddit 11 years and not seen this “fact” reposted almost daily?!
It’s funny to me that this very same scene, lauded for it realism, also has two of the bad guys escape a shootout in downtown LA in broad daylight with multiple police fatalities because they made it to a hatchback station wagon.
Reality is not required for something to be in US military training PowerPoints, and being in one shouldn’t be considered a certificate of authenticity.
Also we don’t teach weapon training with videos. We teach it with weapons.
Wasn’t this an on going legend never actually confirmed? Sometimes is the US Army and sometimes the USMC.
Heat nailed realism so well that a Hollywood shootout ended up teaching the military how to reload.
Why the fuck would the place that teaches this professionally to prefessionals who do this professionally need to watch a movie to learn how an actor does this? Soldiers learn to do these things in their sleep. They dont need to see movies about it, you learn by doing and building muscle memory. Not by watching movies.
Movies tend to have actors use real guns or prop guns that reload like real guns. I don’t know how you can unrealistically load a gun
It’s not perfect, he used his support hand to manually pull the empty mag before going for the fresh one instead of going directly for the fresh one and allowing the empty to fall out in its own. But overall it is damn good.
With all the practice he had around Cher’s pool it’s no wonder
https://youtu.be/tb_DE7iSPIw?si=E3Yw1YAKphyM-1dr
They use it as a propoganda tool.